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Malaysia wants access to MH17 site

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  • NEW: Netherlands makes its first identification of a victim
  • Another 38 coffins carrying victims' remains arrive in the Netherlands from Ukraine
  • Fighting prevents Dutch forensics team from reaching the crash site
  • Malaysian PM says team of 3 Malaysian investigators has not yet been able to see full site


Donetsk, Ukraine (CNN) -- More than a week after Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 went down in eastern Ukraine, Malaysian investigators have not yet been able to access the entire crash site, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Saturday.
He urged both the pro-Russia rebels and Ukraine's armed forces to cooperate so investigators can access the site fully.
All 298 people aboard the plane died when it crashed on July 17. Of that number, 43 were Malaysian, including 15 crew and two infants, according to Malaysia Airlines.
Nine days later, some human remains still lie scattered amid the debris.
A statement from Najib's office said that since a deal was struck with the rebels on access to the crash site, a team of three Malaysian investigators has visited on three separate occasions, on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Each visit lasted about three hours, and the team was not able to visit all of the very large site.
The team believes that at least 30 investigators would be needed to cover the entire site, in addition to themselves, three Dutch investigators and one representative of the independent ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) allowed in so far, the statement said.
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Police secure a refrigerated train loaded with bodies of passengers from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 as it arrives in a Kharkiv, Ukraine, factory on Tuesday, July 22. The United States says a surface-to-air missile took down the Boeing 777 on Thursday, July 17, as it was flying over Ukraine from Amsterdam, Netherlands, to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, killing all 298 people aboard. Ukrainian officials have accused pro-Russian rebels of downing the jet, but Russia blames Ukraine's recent military operations against the rebels.

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A pro-Russia rebel passes wreckage from the crashed jet near the eastern Ukraine village of Hrabove on Monday, July 21.

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Wreckage from the jet lies in grass near Hrabove on July 21.

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A man covers his face with a rag as members of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe and the Dutch National Forensic Investigations Team inspect bodies in a refrigerated train near the crash site in eastern Ukraine on July 21. The remains of 16 people are still missing, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said.

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Emergency workers carry a victim's body in a bag at the crash site on July 21. Search teams have recovered more than 270 bodies, officials say.

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A piece of the Boeing 777 lies in the grass in eastern Ukraine's Donetsk region on July 21.

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An armed pro-Russia rebel stands guard next to a refrigerated train loaded with bodies in Torez, Ukraine, on Sunday, July 20.

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Ukrainian State Emergency Service employees sort through debris on July 20 as they work to locate the deceased.

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A woman covers her mouth with a piece of fabric July 20 to ward off smells from railway cars that reportedly contain passengers' bodies.

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Toys and flowers sit on the charred fuselage of the jet as a memorial on July 20.

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People search a wheat field for remains in the area of the crash site on July 20.

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A woman walks among charred debris at the crash site on Sunday, July 20.

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Emergency workers load the body of a victim onto a truck at the crash site on Saturday, July 19.

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Emergency workers carry the body of a victim at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in eastern Ukraine on Saturday, July 19.

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A large piece of the main cabin is under guard at the crash site on July 19.

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Victims' bodies are placed by the side of the road on July 19 as recovery efforts continue at the crash site. International officials lament the lack of a secured perimeter.

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A man looks through the debris at the crash site on July 19.

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An envelope bearing the Malaysia Airlines logo at the crash site on July 19.

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Armed rebels walk past large pieces of the Boeing 777 on July 19.

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Ukrainian rescue workers walk through a wheat field with a stretcher as they collect the bodies of victims on July 19.

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A woman looks at wreckage at the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 crash site on July 19.

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Pro-Russian fighters stand guard as the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe delegation arrives at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in eastern Ukraine on Friday, July 18.

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A woman walks through the debris field on July 18.

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Pro-Russia rebels stand guard at the crash site.

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Wreckage from Flight 17 lies in a field in Shaktarsk, Urkaine on July 18. International inspectors are headed to the crash site to search for the plane's flight data recorders.

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A man covers a body with a plastic sheet near the crash site July 18. The passengers and crew hailed from all over the world, including Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Germany and Canada.

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A diver searches for the jet's flight data recorders on July 18.

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Coal miners search the crash site.

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Wreckage from the Boeing 777 lies on the ground July 18 in rebel-held eastern Ukraine.

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People search for bodies of passengers on July 18.

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A woman walks past a body covered with a plastic sheet near the crash site July 18. The diversity of the victims' nationalities has turned the crash into a global tragedy.

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Belongings of passengers lie in the grass on July 18.

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People inspect the crash site on Thursday, July 17.

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People walk amid the debris at the site of the crash.

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Debris smoulders in a field near the Russian border.

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Fire engines arrive at the crash site.

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A man stands next to wreckage.

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Debris from the crashed jet lies in a field in Ukraine.

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Family members of those aboard Flight 17 leave Schiphol Airport near Amsterdam, Netherlands.

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A large piece of the plane lies on the ground.

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Luggage from the flight sits in a field at the crash site.

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A couple walks to the location at Schiphol Airport near Amsterdam where more information will be given regarding the flight.

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Flight arrivals are listed at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang, Malaysia.

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Debris from the Boeing 777, pictured on July 17.

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A man inspects debris from the plane.

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Wreckage from the plane is seen on July 17.

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A man talks with security at Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, Netherlands, on July 17.

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Wreckage burns in Ukraine.

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A man stands next to the wreckage of the airliner that crashed July 17 in Ukraine.

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People inspect a piece of wreckage believed to be from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in Ukraine. This image was posted to Twitter.

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People inspect a piece of wreckage believed to be from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. This image was posted to Twitter.

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A piece of wreckage believed to be from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. This image was posted to Twitter.

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A piece of wreckage believed to be from MH17. This image was posted to Twitter.

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An airsickness bag believed to be from MH17. This image was posted to Twitter.

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A piece of wreckage believed to be from MH17. This image was posted to Twitter.


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Challenge of identifying MH17 victims
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"Unfortunately, events on the ground -- including ongoing fighting between Ukrainian and separatist forces -- prevent such a large contingent of investigators being deployed," the statement said.
Najib's words come only a day after the rebels controlling the area -- the same rebels that Ukraine and the United States accuse of downing the plane -- hinted to an international monitoring group that they've nearly had enough, even with the limited number of investigators they've let in so far.
"We were given the indication ... that their patience is almost wearing out," said Michael Bociurkiw, a spokesman for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, which has had a small team touring the site for days. "They're saying maybe another week and then they don't know what would happen."
That scenario would be unlikely to please a number of nations that say a proper investigation still hasn't begun, including Netherlands, whose officials say they're negotiating with the Ukrainian government to send 40 Dutch military police to search for more bodies.
"Malaysia's agreement with those in control of the crash site has three central elements: the transfer of the black boxes to Malaysia; the return of the human remains; and full access to the crash site for international investigators," Najib is quoted as saying.
"The first two conditions have been met. My priority now is to ensure the third part of the deal is honored, and that international investigators are given full and secure access to the site. This will require the cooperation of those in control of the crash site and the Ukrainian armed forces."
More coffins flown out
Another 38 coffins arrived on two planes from the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv and were given a somber welcome in the Dutch city of Eindhoven. This is expected to be the last transfer of coffins from Ukraine to Netherlands for the time being. The search for further remains at the crash site will continue when possible.
Meantime, authorities for the first time released the identity of a victim with Dutch nationality. A team of more than 200 specialists are busy with the identification process, but officials have stressed the process could take months.
A group of Dutch forensic experts was unable to reach the crash site Saturday because of safety concerns prompted by renewed fighting in the Donetsk area, a spokesman for the Ministry of Defense said. He said it was also too dangerous for OSCE observers to return to the site.
As of Friday afternoon, 378 body bags containing remains of Flight 17 victims had been processed in Kharkiv, where discovered remains have been sent, Sergey Bochkovskiy, the head of Ukraine's State Emergency Services, told reporters there.
Officials say it's unclear how many individual victims' remains are contained in the bags.
Dutch citizens were 193 of the 298 people aboard the downed flight. By Friday, 198 coffins had either already arrived in Netherlands or were on their way Friday, Bochkovskiy said.
On Friday, the OSCE team toured the crash site, returning to a recently discovered section of fuselage from the plane. This time -- unlike Thursday -- victims' passports and other documentation were there, Bociurkiw said.
"We can't draw any conclusions. But for sure, those were not there the last time we were there," he said. "Perhaps someone placed it there. We don't know."
No Ukrainian government or international force has secured the site, raising concerns about tampering or pilfering.
The OSCE team on Friday toured with a few experts from Australia and, for the first time, some forensic experts from Netherlands.
Though many corpses have been recovered already, Bociurkiw said the group still has seen human remains among the debris several times this week.
Parliament to vote on international police
Ukraine temporary Acting Prime Minister Volodymyr Hroisman said Saturday that access to the crash site to allow its examination by investigators and the recovery of bodies is the key issue at stake, according to the Cabinet press office.
But, he said, an international police mission is needed to guard the experts on the site. For this to happen, he said, Parliament must ratify a treaty allowing the deployment.
"This document is being prepared and will soon be introduced to the Parliament. I hope it will be passed by the Parliament next week," he said.
The next parliamentary meeting is scheduled for Thursday. It would appear that no international police will be allowed at the site before Parliament votes.
Forty Dutch military policemen have arrived in Ukraine, where they will be tasked with helping to find human remains and belongings. They have not yet gone to the crash site.
Najib is expected to travel to Netherlands on Wednesday and will meet with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte in the Hague, his office said.
The two leaders will discuss issues around securing the crash site and the process of identifying the human remains recovered from the scene so far.
Najib said the three Malaysian investigators were now preparing a preliminary report based on their observations so far. Once that is complete, they plan to return to the crash site, "if possible with a larger contingent of investigators and in more secure circumstances," the statement said.
Conflict continues
Accusations over who was responsible for bringing down the passenger jet, which was headed from Amsterdam to Malaysia, continue to be traded by the Ukrainian government, pro-Russian rebels and officials in Moscow and Washington.
MH17 was downed on July 17 by a suspected surface-to-air missile over eastern Ukraine, where groups of pro-Russian rebels are fighting Ukrainian government forces. The rebels have denied allegations from Ukraine and the West that they brought down the commercial airliner using equipment supplied by Russia.
Conflict continues to roil the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of eastern Ukraine.
Hundreds of vehicles crawled in heavy traffic Saturday as residents attempt to flee the center of Donetsk city heading south, following a night of intensified shelling and anti-aircraft fire on the northern outskirts of what is a stronghold for the pro-Russia rebels.
According to the Twitter feed for the press office of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic on Saturday, fighting has occurred at five border check points that appear to be on the Russian side of the Ukraine-Russia border.
Russia's state-run RIA Novosti news agency also reported fighting at five border checkpoints, naming three places on the Russia side of the border, Novoshakhtinsk, Kuybishevo and Gukovo.
CNN's Ingrid Formanek reported from Donetsk and Laura Smith-Spark wrote and reported in London. CNN's Antonia Mortensen, Saima Mohsin, Bharati Naik, Jason Hanna, Jethro Mullen and Radina Gigova contributed to this report

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